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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 29 @ 7:30 PM ET
Jan Levine: NYR prospect development camp concludes and free agency updates Even though B-D level players coming off the board
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:32 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC
Couple other guys to keep an eye on: hearing COL with interest in Matt Calvert and VAN with Antoine Roussel
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
Jan Levine: NYR prospect development camp concludes and free agency updates
Even though B-D level players coming off the board

- airjan23

It's crazy that Sean Day looks like he's 30 compared to some of these kids.

@FriedgeHNIC
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It also appears very unlikely David Perron will return to LV
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:39 PM ET
Darren Dreger@DarrenDreger
Multiple teams are interested in defenceman, Thomas Hickey. Depending on Tavares decision, the Isles may look much different next season.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 29 @ 7:44 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC
Couple other guys to keep an eye on: hearing COL with interest in Matt Calvert and VAN with Antoine Roussel

- 21peter

Dreger projects that Calvert will sign with the Avalanche
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 29 @ 7:46 PM ET
It's crazy that Sean Day looks like he's 30 compared to some of these kids.

@FriedgeHNIC
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It also appears very unlikely David Perron will return to LV

- tomburton99

That was already confirmed with Perron not re-signing over a week ago, along with the case for James Neal, by Dave Schoen of the Las Vegas Review Journal. He reported that Neal had refused a 5 or 6 years extension at the same $5M annually, back prior to the trade deadline. He believed Neal's demands would be $6M to 7M per year for a similar length term.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 29 @ 7:57 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
I’m hearing Roussel with #Canucks could be a 4 year deal worth just a tad over 3 million dollars per season.

Cross another one off the list of this accurate.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:16 PM ET
Ottawa isn't forced just yet to deal Karlsson. The question there are the varied reports whether their owner will be selling or not, which some sources say they will be, while the owner along with the NHL have both denied so.
The bottom line was that Karlsson could no longer co-exist if Hoffman were still there. With Hoffman landing with the Panthers via the Sharks as a 3rd team involved, Karlsson no longer has that on ice issue to worry about. But the word through sources in Canada is that he will not likely re-sign with them if their ownership remains the same.
So why trade high right now to acquire the injury plagued Karlsson, including with having to absorb most or all of Bobby Ryan's contract to currently do so, when his price will drop later on, and greater so heading towards next season's trade deadline, should ownership still remain the same?
That makes far less sense under their current plan in not Cup contending, or maybe not even caring to contend for a playoff spot by not retooling with some veterans. Then why not instead have pursued Tavares then more seriously for means also to impress earlier a happier Kovalchuk, as the latter was originally perceived to be a guarantee to be here?
With those two options out of reach, it would be more beneficial if trading for &/or signing more quantity in experienced players, up to that of mid level impact players, if returning to their original in part retool with a rebuild. And that would only come each at a 15% to 35% perceived maximum salary to Karlsson's new contract alone, to compete better for an immediate return to the postseason.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:21 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
I’m hearing Roussel with #Canucks could be a 4 year deal worth just a tad over 3 million dollars per season.

Cross another one off the list of this accurate.

- airjan23

Their options are disappearing quickly, while Gorton is hopefully working on something else as alternates. If not, this is going to be a much lengthier rebuild time period than they led all originally to believe, including Hank, under that supposed retool/rebuild combo plan of last February, to both become younger and compete immediately for a return to the postseason in 2019.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 29 @ 8:58 PM ET
Their options are disappearing quickly, while Gorton is hopefully working on something else as alternates. If not, this is going to be a much lengthier rebuild time period than they led all originally to believe, including Hank, under that supposed retool/rebuild combo plan of last February, to both become younger and compete immediately for a return to the postseason in 2019.
- RangerSaver

Bring back the undertaker
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:15 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
I’m hearing Roussel with #Canucks could be a 4 year deal worth just a tad over 3 million dollars per season.

Cross another one off the list of this accurate.

- airjan23

That is a contract that I'll happily avoid.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:14 PM ET
If Doughty got 11, Tavares getting 12?
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 29 @ 10:36 PM ET
When will these owners learn? Doughtys deal is approx. 3 years too long. Jack Johnson gets a 5 year deal ---- are you kidding me? With the "crazy" season now upon us, I don't mind Gorton sitting on the free agent sidelines.

I think Belesky should be given a shot in training camp. His high salary doesn't impact the team considering all of the cap space we currently enjoy. He may very well benefit from a clean slate and resurrect his career.

The only trade that interests me is getting Panarin. He is still young enough that he will be in his prime as this team goes through its rebuild. He is a star talent that can be a core member of our team for years to come. He can perhaps lead our new generation of Russian/Eastern European players too.

Karlsson, Nash and others simply don't interest me or further our rebuild. I am curious to see how creative Gorton can be and utilize our ample cap space to our advantage...

LGR!!
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:07 PM ET
When will these owners learn? Doughtys deal is approx. 3 years too long. Jack Johnson gets a 5 year deal ---- are you kidding me? With the "crazy" season now upon us, I don't mind Gorton sitting on the free agent sidelines.

I think Belesky should be given a shot in training camp. His high salary doesn't impact the team considering all of the cap space we currently enjoy. He may very well benefit from a clean slate and resurrect his career.

The only trade that interests me is getting Panarin. He is still young enough that he will be in his prime as this team goes through its rebuild. He is a star talent that can be a core member of our team for years to come. He can perhaps lead our new generation of Russian/Eastern European players too.

Karlsson, Nash and others simply don't interest me or further our rebuild. I am curious to see how creative Gorton can be and utilize our ample cap space to our advantage...

LGR!!

- TommyGTrain

I think for this year we sit on the sidelines, maybe sign a tough guy or 2 to protect the kids a bit and a guy like Yak or Duclair. Other than that I don’t think we do much.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:26 PM ET
Bring back the undertaker
- nyrangers9479

... and Desharnais!
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:49 PM ET
When will these owners learn? Doughtys deal is approx. 3 years too long. Jack Johnson gets a 5 year deal ---- are you kidding me? With the "crazy" season now upon us, I don't mind Gorton sitting on the free agent sidelines.

I think Belesky should be given a shot in training camp. His high salary doesn't impact the team considering all of the cap space we currently enjoy. He may very well benefit from a clean slate and resurrect his career.

The only trade that interests me is getting Panarin. He is still young enough that he will be in his prime as this team goes through its rebuild. He is a star talent that can be a core member of our team for years to come. He can perhaps lead our new generation of Russian/Eastern European players too.

Karlsson, Nash and others simply don't interest me or further our rebuild. I am curious to see how creative Gorton can be and utilize our ample cap space to our advantage...

LGR!!

- TommyGTrain

I'm a big NO to trading high in assets to acquire Karlsson to absorb about likely 15% of their cap on his new contract, along with having to acquire most to all of Bobby Ryan's $7.25M remaining for 4 more seasons to do so. The two combined would absorb 20% to 25% of the team's cap space. If that becomes their plan, then why didn't they first go harder earlier "with promises" after Tavares, by which then Kovalchuk would have likely delayed his signing with L.A. to sign here as priginally expected, if Tavares reached free agency? That would have been without giving up any assets in trading high at all, while having their two combined cap hits be in about the same percentage range as Karlsson's & Ryan's combined.
Otherwise, I would like to acquire Panarin as well. But, the latest according a day or two ago to L.A. Lariviere of TVA Sports was that the Blue Jackets GM would be meeting with Panarin on his trip to Russia soon, despite Panarin not willing yet to sign a long term deal with them. Panarin's agent had also denied reports that Panarin wanted to be traded, in saying that any of the such rumors were "unfounded" to be true.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:51 PM ET
... and Desharnais!
- RangerSaver

Desharnais was dog poop.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:59 PM ET
Desharnais was dog poop.
- tomburton99

I know that, Tom. That's why I mentioned him as a return here in a joke, in reply to rangers9479 joking to bring back the undertaker first.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
Ottawa isn't forced just yet to deal Karlsson. The question there are the varied reports whether their owner will be selling or not, which some sources say they will be, while the owner along with the NHL have both denied so.
The bottom line was that Karlsson could no longer co-exist if Hoffman were still there. With Hoffman landing with the Panthers via the Sharks as a 3rd team involved, Karlsson no longer has that on ice issue to worry about. But the word through sources in Canada is that he will not likely re-sign with them if their ownership remains the same.
So why trade high right now to acquire the injury plagued Karlsson, including with having to absorb most or all of Bobby Ryan's contract to currently do so, when his price will drop later on, and greater so heading towards next season's trade deadline, should ownership still remain the same?
That makes far less sense under their current plan in not Cup contending, or maybe not even caring to contend for a playoff spot by not retooling with some veterans. Then why not instead have pursued Tavares then more seriously for means also to impress earlier a happier Kovalchuk, as the latter was originally perceived to be a guarantee to be here?
With those two options out of reach, it would be more beneficial if trading for &/or signing more quantity in experienced players, up to that of mid level impact players, if returning to their original in part retool with a rebuild. And that would only come each at a 15% to 35% perceived maximum salary to Karlsson's new contract alone, to compete better for an immediate return to the postseason.

- RangerSaver

Injuries are my biggest concern with signing EK to the $$$$$$, long-term contract he wants. Some crazy team will do that, Gorts picked the right time for the rebuild to avoid that.
As for Kovy, no way was he coming here during a rebuild, he wants to be on a contending team now, not mentoring youth.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:03 AM ET
That Doughty contract is nuts! Gonna be another lockout in the near future.
Thanks, Mr. Recent HOF "Builder" inductee.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:07 AM ET
Maybe that earlier word Friday evening by NHL Network that Tavares would decide what his future will be only "Isles wise" speaking by Friday's end, was to be kept either completely silent until "who knows when". Or, maybe it meant the wait would be up to 3:00 am Eastern Time Saturday morning, for midnight Friday San Jose time, should that be where he wants to move on to now.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:13 AM ET
Injuries are my biggest concern with signing EK to the $$$$$$, long-term contract he wants. Some crazy team will do that, Gorts picked the right time for the rebuild to avoid that.
As for Kovy, no way was he coming here during a rebuild, he wants to be on a contending team now, not mentoring youth.

- Fenrir

Right on Fenrir with E. Karlsson, as I wrote earlier with him being injury plagued, in addition to having to pick up most to all of Bobby Ryan's annual $7.25M/4 year contract, and trading high for him as well.
I only mentioned Kovy in relation in that if Gorton would actually want Karlsson and Ryan, then they should have been more serious in going after Tavares first instead, which may have likely showed Kovy that the team would have a better chance to reach the postseason. That may have delayed him signing with L.A., to sign here instead, just as L.A. may have promised him that they would do all they could to re-sign Doughty. (Could that be the reason for his insane salary they gave him in term?) Then as Hank has said, once you're in, you never know, a la the near perfect quest by the Vegas Knights in their very first NHL season.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:15 AM ET
That Doughty contract is nuts! Gonna be another lockout in the near future.
Thanks, Mr. Recent HOF "Builder" inductee.

- Fenrir

Wait till Karlsson. Cause Karlsson might wanna have a hgher AAV due to him being more productive and have that extra Norris. He may be unhappy now, but he's gonna be thrilled in a year.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 30 @ 12:17 AM ET
Wait till Karlsson. Cause Karlsson might wanna have a hgher AAV due to him being more productive and have that extra Norris. He may be unhappy now, but he's gonna be thrilled in a year.
- tomburton99

Yes he will be thrilled, if some team ever does make him the highest paid NHL player, as Karlsson said he wanted to be during last season.
playthekids
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Location: Skate like you give a damn., NY
Joined: 01.07.2010

Jun 30 @ 6:34 AM ET
Also noticed the opening sentence in Lias Anderson quote,
About his feeling good that Gorton is trusting “us” with the future .
I believe signing some filler free agents crushes that good feeling,
Play the kids
WOOF!
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